Editing Talk:NPC Vehicles

Use the sortable wikitable class for the tables here and they'll be sortable by the column headings:

class = "wikitable sortable"

The table for G-L can be used as an example.



Should it not be one big table now?  The sorting won't work otherwise.

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Probably, but I wouldn't make it a single table until all the 'main' columns are filled, and formatted properly.  For instance, if every entry in the ''Chassis'' column isn't a link to a chassis' page, it won't sort properly.  And the ''Engine'' column probably won't sort properly regardless without some gymnastics WRT the formatting since the entries are a combination of numbers and alpha characters. 

Either way, I would leave the initial sort on the Vehicle Name Ascending.

--[[User:Wikiadmin|Wikiadmin]] 22:51, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, all vehicles updated.  I'll let you decide what to do about the formatting.  I think it would be nice to move the race and deathrace vehicles to a separate table at some point.

== Race/Death Race ==

I'd like to split these out into separate tables.  Anyone have any objections?

--- I wouldn't expect to hear much but crickets since it would surprise me if anybody looks at the Discussion page on a regular basis.  Might be better to ask in the main forum given this is one of the more popular pages (for viewing not necessarily for monitoring). --[[User:Wikiadmin|Wikiadmin]] 14:33, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

--- Haha just found this discussion page. Only nine months later... I agree with either separating out Race/Death Race or else adding a column for Race, Death Race, Wild, Arena, etc. and making it sortable. --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] 03:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

---- So you know (Not you specifically Trifler, everyone), I'm Removing each line from the master list and putting it into a table below it. I've made Wilderness Combat Cars table already, and the Ant and 57 Gunner entries were both removed from the master list. I suspect you put the Ant back in?

Triferus mentioned offhandedly to me that someone needed to split the tables, so I'm working on it. Any help would be appreciated! --[[User:Checkers|Checkers]] 21:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
*I'd leave the main list intact until the category lists are complete, but then I'm not a big fan of splitting the list up, so my opinion might be ignorable. :)  --[[User:Wikiadmin|Wikiadmin]] 21:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
*Wasn't me Checkers. I know you've been working on it so I've been staying hands off. You say you would appreciate some help though so I'll give it a go on ones that I know for sure are used in Wilderness combat. --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] 22:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Note about number of occupants equal to number of guns ==

I don't really agree with the note on the page that says the number of occupants should be assumed to be equal to the number of guns unless stated otherwise. This may have been true in the past, but a lot of the new NPC submissions use a dedicated Driver. --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] 03:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
* I'm not sure just how clear-cut it is, either. The Desert Flame, for example, has two guns but only one occupant. It also raises the question of large vehicles, such as the Beaster and the Texan Strongarm, which have relatively few guns compared to what their bulk and chassis could take. I say we just take notes of how many occupants we see in each NPC car in scouts and fill it in the old-fashioned way. --[[User:Checkers|Checkers]] 02:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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 OK, all vehicles updated.  I'll let you decide what to do about the formatting.  I think it would be nice to move the race and deathrace vehicles to a separate table at some point.
-How do we find the "Info" link to NPC vehicle configs? I can't find them anywhere on the Dark-Wind.com website. --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] 12:24, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
-* Probably have to ask in the forum or Sam directly for the vehicle ID. The note about having the vehicle ids in a text somewhere was made by a guy who doesn't play anymore, so getting them is unlikely. --[[User:Wikiadmin|Wikiadmin]] 16:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 == Race/Death Race ==
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 *I'd leave the main list intact until the category lists are complete, but then I'm not a big fan of splitting the list up, so my opinion might be ignorable. :)  --[[User:Wikiadmin|Wikiadmin]] 21:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 *Wasn't me Checkers. I know you've been working on it so I've been staying hands off. You say you would appreciate some help though so I'll give it a go on ones that I know for sure are used in Wilderness combat. --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] 22:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
-**I still suggest that the initial sort of the table(s) should be alphabetical by name.  Since there's no way to set a default sort the entries have to be put in the original sort order while editing/creating the table. --[[User:Wikiadmin|Wikiadmin]] 16:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 == Note about number of occupants equal to number of guns ==
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 I don't really agree with the note on the page that says the number of occupants should be assumed to be equal to the number of guns unless stated otherwise. This may have been true in the past, but a lot of the new NPC submissions use a dedicated Driver. --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] 03:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure just how clear-cut it is, either. The Desert Flame, for example, has two guns but only one occupant. It also raises the question of large vehicles, such as the Beaster and the Texan Strongarm, which have relatively few guns compared to what their bulk and chassis could take. I say we just take notes of how many occupants we see in each NPC car in scouts and fill it in the old-fashioned way. --[[User:Checkers|Checkers]] 02:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
-* I went ahead and deleted the note. --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] 13:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
-== Template Usage ==
-I created a template for adding rows to the table.  Not sure if it will make things easier or not, but thought I would give it a go.
-The template is called NPCVehicleRow and it is used like so:
-<nowiki>
-{{NPCVehicleRow|name=vehicle name|chassis=chassis name|engine=engine name|cr=combat rating|occupants=occupant count|weapons=weapons list|info=info link|comments=any notes}}
-</nowiki>
-Each column is separated by a pipe (|), and since the items are named they can be entered in any order, and stuff that isn't known can be skipped/left off.
-I made the first entry of the Wilderness Vehicles table using the template as an example as well.--[[User:Wikiadmin|Wikiadmin]] 18:06, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
-== Removals ==
-I wouldn't be so quick to remove entries just because the info link is dead.--[[User:Wikiadmin|Wikiadmin]] 06:03, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
-* Ok, I posted the forums about getting the list of NPC Vehicle Design ID #'s. --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] 06:14, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
-==Sorting done (for the most part)==
-As a glitch locked me out of DW scouts/travels and I felt I should do something related to DW, I finally went in and finished reorganizing the tables into separate lists. If anyone finds anything in the wrong list, let me know! Do you all want me to split the In-Town table into Race/Deathrace/Combat lists?
-I'll probably start writing the individual articles for the really nasty wilderness cars now. --[[User:Checkers|Checkers]] 18:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
-I re-added the mutant masher; it got lost somewhere. the link to the info isn't right, and I don't know the CR. --Slidewrx
-I'll let you into a secret.  Go to the DW page, and log off.  Then click on Events->Darkwind:Tactical->My Vehicles.  That gives you a list of every NPC vehicle in the game, with the info links.  --[[User:Wolfsbane|Wolfsbane]]
-* Holy Jesus this is awesome. Thank you! I was actually updating it manually. [[User:Checkers|Checkers]] 12:55, 2 June 2011 (UTC)